My thai wife owns the land that i build the house on and now that we just finished the house I would like to put the house in my name.
Is this possible and what kind of documents I will get to show that I am the owner of the house.
how to own the house
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Re: how to own the house
Attila can best explain the procedure for doing this, I will send him an PM now and ask him to comment on this thread.
Re: how to own the house
Hi Windjammer,
did you request a building permit, and if yes, whose name is it in, yours or your wife's?
Did you contract a construction company to build the house, and if yes, who signed the contract, you or your wife?
Depending on your answers the procedure is different.
did you request a building permit, and if yes, whose name is it in, yours or your wife's?
Did you contract a construction company to build the house, and if yes, who signed the contract, you or your wife?
Depending on your answers the procedure is different.
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windjammer
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Re: how to own the house
I live on Koh Tao , no building permits needed there. I did use a builder but there never was a contract.
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Well, the fact that most people build without a building permit does not automatically make it legal. I would expect Koh Tao to have quite clear regulations what can be built and where.
But let's start with the land, you say that your wife owns the land,but does she? Does she have a chanote or another valid title deed?
Once you have that go with your wife to your local amphoe and ask to register the house as yours. Usually you would show there that the building permit and the contract with the construction company is in your name, not your wifes.
Another issue is that you might need something to show that you had been entitled to build there, such as a leasing contract for the land, or a usufruct.
However with you building in an area, where you don't even need a building permit, the guys at the amphoe might not know what to do.
Usually it is easy to get the house in your name, if you have at least the building permit in your name. If not, they officers there might require that the land owner sells you the house, which could get difficult because the land owner is your wife.
Whatever the amphoe guys say, if as a result you get the blue house book in your name (as house owner, but not with you listed in it as living there, of course), then you own the house. Assuming that you live there, ask for the yellow book (with you farang listed in it as living there) too, while you're talking with the guys there anyway.
Good luck.
But let's start with the land, you say that your wife owns the land,but does she? Does she have a chanote or another valid title deed?
Once you have that go with your wife to your local amphoe and ask to register the house as yours. Usually you would show there that the building permit and the contract with the construction company is in your name, not your wifes.
Another issue is that you might need something to show that you had been entitled to build there, such as a leasing contract for the land, or a usufruct.
However with you building in an area, where you don't even need a building permit, the guys at the amphoe might not know what to do.
Usually it is easy to get the house in your name, if you have at least the building permit in your name. If not, they officers there might require that the land owner sells you the house, which could get difficult because the land owner is your wife.
Whatever the amphoe guys say, if as a result you get the blue house book in your name (as house owner, but not with you listed in it as living there, of course), then you own the house. Assuming that you live there, ask for the yellow book (with you farang listed in it as living there) too, while you're talking with the guys there anyway.
Good luck.
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its a gidday to windjammer..its the thai fly from mae rim...if u go the 30 year lease route. it maybe possible that .you can have rider clauses attached to this document..to cover the above... and...what ever you may desire ...please seek a GOOD LAWYER.. to see if it is possible to execute your requests....where costs are minimal amount..if you go over the posts here on C.T.H. on this matter there are more turns and corners then the loop road of C/MAI..PAI..MAE HONGSON..C/MAI...and from my memory.. none are qualified in this feild ... including myself....its a GET YOURSELF A LAWYER GIDDAY TO ALL..its the thai fly from mae rimwindjammer wrote: Is this possible and what kind of documents I will get to show that I am the owner of the house.
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attila knows what he is talking about
attila knows what he is talking about
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Just remember that even if you get it in your name she is entitled to 50% of the value if the marriage goes bad, even with a leasing contract for the land, or a usufruct
If she owned the land before the marriage then you are only entitled to 50% of the house
Strange that a country that does not recognize "common law marriage" recognizes the concept of "community property "
You might want to review this topic here:
Building Permit for a private house
http://www.coolthaihouse.com/forum/view ... f=6&t=1004
If she owned the land before the marriage then you are only entitled to 50% of the house
Strange that a country that does not recognize "common law marriage" recognizes the concept of "community property "
You might want to review this topic here:
Building Permit for a private house
http://www.coolthaihouse.com/forum/view ... f=6&t=1004
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Putting in a rider clause to allow a further 30 year extention of the lease will be disallowed by most land offices. some will allow it but the commercial code makes it clear that you can only contract for one 30 year term. And it is the court and the ccc that determine the law not the land office and lawyerthaifly wrote:its a gidday to windjammer..its the thai fly from mae rim...if u go the 30 year lease route. it maybe possible that .you can have rider clauses attached to this document..to cover the above... and...what ever you may desire ...please seek a GOOD LAWYER.. to see if it is possible to execute your requests....where costs are minimal amount..if you go over the posts here on C.T.H. on this matter there are more turns and corners then the loop road of C/MAI..PAI..MAE HONGSON..C/MAI...and from my memory.. none are qualified in this feild ... including myself....its a GET YOURSELF A LAWYER GIDDAY TO ALL..its the thai fly from mae rimwindjammer wrote: Is this possible and what kind of documents I will get to show that I am the owner of the house.
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Hi,
If you get it in your name, she is entitled to 60% of the value if the marriage goes bad even with a leasing contract for the land, or a usufruct, If she owned the land before the marriage then you are only entitled to 50% of the house..
If you get it in your name, she is entitled to 60% of the value if the marriage goes bad even with a leasing contract for the land, or a usufruct, If she owned the land before the marriage then you are only entitled to 50% of the house..
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It could be 60% or any other figure if the judge decides or by negotiation but the civil and commercial code stipulates 50% for joint assets
land of course not being joint; and if it is not clarified who owns the house, the ccc stipulates that also belongs to the land owner
payment for the house, building permit signed building contract would help
land of course not being joint; and if it is not clarified who owns the house, the ccc stipulates that also belongs to the land owner
payment for the house, building permit signed building contract would help