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LED light bulbs

Postby MGV12 » Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:01 pm

Anyone know of a major outlet source for GU10 [220V] and MR16 [12V] LED light bulbs here? An idea of price if you do.

I have so far only checked in the some of the 'sheds' [Global House etc] around Chiang Mai but everything is halogen. Maybe the specialist electrical shops stock them but as most of these bulbs are made around this area of the world [China!] I would have thought they would be more generally available; even though the Thais aren't into them yet..

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Re: Looking for LED light bulbs

Postby thaifly » Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:56 pm

GIDDAY TO MGV12...its the thai fly from mae rim...sure looks that the lights are out on your request about led lightbulds..and the thaifly cannot turn them on for you also..may be this post will enable a member to switch on...ITS MICHEAL OWEN GAMBLE GIDDAY TO ALL...ITS THE THAI FLY FROM MAE RIM
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Re: Looking for LED light bulbs

Postby pklongball » Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:18 pm

I just spent about 10 minutes looking online for the LED GU10 lights. I see that the big light company OSRAM makes a line of LED lights in the GU10 spec as well as others. OSRAM has a rather large presence here in LOS, I would think that these lights should be available as a special order from any of the bigger retailers that carries the OSRAM product line. Even the smaller local electric supply shops can order most things.

It happens that I will be visiting a specialty lighting shop here in Rayong in the next day or so and the man is quite well spoken and is a lighting designer. I will put this question to him and see what he has to say
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Re: Looking for LED light bulbs

Postby jazzman » Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:13 pm

A limited range of LED lights is offered in some Global stores.
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Re: Looking for LED light bulbs

Postby pklongball » Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:46 am

Well I talked to the lighting shop guy and he does know of the LED lamps and bulbs. He even carries a few lights. When I asked about the GU10 he acknowledged he knew of them but said he thinks too expensive and not worth the money. He did not tell me where I could get the lamps bulbs.

He seemed very disinterested so I did not pursue it anymore
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Re: Looking for LED light bulbs

Postby jazzman » Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:00 pm

Now that the motel is finished, we are nearing completion of the long awaited construction of our perimeter wall and landscaping of the garden. There will be lights on top of all the wall columns, and pathway and driveway lighting, as well as two illuminated signs for the motel. it has been planned to maximise on the use of very low wattage LED bulbs. We had considered several solutions including solar. We find that low-power, high-lumen 240v LED- cluster bulbs for around 240 baht each, work out cheaper in the long run than 7, 9, or 11W energy saver bulbs that cost on average 100 baht. We need about 30 bulbs, and as we cannot drive all of the country to source then, weshall probably be purchasing whatever is currently available at Global. Next week will decide.

In spite of claims to reliability, we have found that energy-saver bulbs do not come up with the promised thoudands of hours of life expectancy. LEDs are far more reliable, though still somewhat expensive. This will change when their use gets more accepted and more widespread.
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Re: Looking for LED light bulbs

Postby jazzman » Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:20 pm

Continuation ( connection time-out):

As far as GU10 holders are concerned, this is not material, we will buy whatever holders are needed for the bulbs we choose. GU10 LED bulbs are generally in the style of the dichrotics, and although they are available in several places in Thailand (Global, again) I have never seen any spherical, omnidirectional lights, whch is what I am looking for. If I can't find exactly what i need I will bring back what I want from the UK next month - this site looks interesting:
http://www.yourwelcome.co.uk/
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Re: Looking for LED light bulbs

Postby Attila » Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:26 pm

I had some discussions with the guys from Water Recycling Thailand about their waste water treatment systems, about which I will post as soon as I have some time (see my other posts here a year ago or so about this subject). In this discussion LED lamps have been mentioned also, they do not sell them but they have an associate who does, who has his own guys in China at the factory or factories, and imports them to Thailand and to Europe. You might wanna talk to them to get the details of that associate.
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Re: Looking for LED light bulbs

Postby Attila » Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:44 pm

Let me add that I strongly urge everyone to switch from CFL lamps and other fluorescent lamps to LEDs whenever you buy a new lamp. Compact fluorescent lamps (CFL) had been praised as energy saving light however LED lamps save much much more.

The main reason for me not to buy fluorescent lamps anymore however is that fluorescent lamps and CFLs contain mercury as vapor inside the glass tubing. Most CFLs contain 3 – 5 mg per bulb.This is a concern for landfills and waste incinerators where the mercury from the lamps is released and contributes to air and water pollution.

And now imagine Thailand's reality, where these mercury containing lamps are carelessly thrown away, and the kids play with them until they break ...
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Re: Looking for LED light bulbs

Postby MGV12 » Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:53 pm

Many thanks to PK, jazzman and Attila for your input:

I am choosing to use LED where possible mainly for reasons, as mentioned by jazzman and Attila, of lower power consumption, longer life and safer disposal. They are a boon in those less accessible locations such as in the eaves where they really can last for five years before changing. Currently LED's are cheaper in the UK than here and I may also wait until my trip in September to bring some back; as they are much less fragile than tungsten filaments they should survive in checked luggage as them showing up on the x-ray m/c in security might cause a slight delay while they ponder whether they are a risk in the cabin. One current shortcoming of LED's is you cannot use them with a dimmer so I guess I will stay with halogen for those areas where I want to have 'mood' lighting.

As Attila mentioned, the power consumption of an, equivalent lumen. LED makes 'low energy' CFL derivatives look like electricity leaches and if you choose the right 'white' I consider they give a much less sterile light. Research has shown that the flicker of a fluorescent light source can induce tiredness and irritation and it should not be the only source of light in a home or workplace --- http://www.newswithviews.com/Peterson/rosalind1.htm

There are similar concerns regarding the health effects of LCD displays where you stare at it for long periods; such as those who use LCD computer monitors a lot and TV addicts.
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Re: Looking for LED light bulbs

Postby Attila » Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:53 pm

I got a price for LED Tubes, good for replacing any fluorescent tubes you might have:

LED Tubes T8 - 18 W, 1200 mm, now only 1990 baht (plus VAT)


This was however for a project involving replacing more than 50 fluorescent tubes, so the price for just one might be higher.

We could combine any orders we might want to place to benefit from the volume price. Anyone interested, reply here or PM me.

I'm waiting for a sample for a 2, 3 or 4 Watt LED light bulb to test them, will post once I've seen them.
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Re: Looking for LED light bulbs

Postby thaifly » Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:38 pm

thaifly wrote:..and the thaifly cannot turn them on for you also.

its a gidday to mgv12..and all..its the thai fly from mae rim.........as for the above quote ...OH YES I CAN.... check out ....I.S. LIGHT HOUSE....THERE BLOWER NUMBER IS...05300850999.... the thai fly thinks they are near airport cenral ..in a business park...and mgv 12. the thai fly feels you will be in for a nice syurprise. nice to know how you got on...ITS A LED LIGHT GIDDAY TO ALL ... its the thai fly from mae rim
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Re: Looking for LED light bulbs

Postby MGV12 » Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:22 pm

Attila wrote:I got a price for LED Tubes, good for replacing any fluorescent tubes you might have:

LED Tubes T8 - 18 W, 1200 mm, now only 1990 baht (plus VAT)


This was however for a project involving replacing more than 50 fluorescent tubes, so the price for just one might be higher.

We could combine any orders we might want to place to benefit from the volume price. Anyone interested, reply here or PM me.

I'm waiting for a sample for a 2, 3 or 4 Watt LED light bulb to test them, will post once I've seen them.


Hi Attila

Yes I would be interested, I will send you a pm when I have my wants list.

Thanks

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Re: Looking for LED light bulbs

Postby MGV12 » Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:31 pm

thaifly wrote:
thaifly wrote:..and the thaifly cannot turn them on for you also.

its a gidday to mgv12..and all..its the thai fly from mae rim.........as for the above quote ...OH YES I CAN.... check out ....I.S. LIGHT HOUSE....THERE BLOWER NUMBER IS...05300850999.... the thai fly thinks they are near airport cenral ..in a business park...and mgv 12. the thai fly feels you will be in for a nice syurprise. nice to know how you got on...ITS A LED LIGHT GIDDAY TO ALL ... its the thai fly from mae rim


Thanks for keeping your eyes open thaiflyinthesky -- I called in there today and they do stock LED's but at the moment only some top end 12V MR16's at 6-800Baht a pop. I have the business card for the general manager and will give him a call as the sellers didn't really know much about them; will post here if anything useful arises.

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Re: Looking for LED light bulbs

Postby jazzman » Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:24 am

Brought a bunch of GU10 dichroic LED cluster bulbs back from the UK in september. prices differ in different outlets from £4 - £6 each - still rather expensive but prices are bound to come down as they get more popular.
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